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[Detonator]

yea, the meizu is now sold in the states by dane-elec.

not quite sure what you mean deto. the meizu i have, the M6, has a touch pad in addition to tactile buttons. it also comes in your choice of black or white.

linky to newegg

what im waiting for and kinda itching to see who will support it is the M8

with most touchpad mp3 players, they tend from time to time act on their own will, not responding to your commands.

[Murdock]

I know I am late to this conversation, but I had a ZEN Vision and it crashed a zillion times.  I sent it back to Creative, and they sent me the ZEN Vision W.  At first I thought they were trying to screw me.  I didn't like the picture compaired to the ZEN Vision. The smaller screen on the ZEN Vision made that picture look tighter. The ZEN Vision W looked like it was a lower resolution. It wasn't, its just the screen was bigger.  After a while I got used to it, and now I LOVE IT.  I grab my podcasts every day and watch them when ever I get a free second.  I have a couple of seasons of shows on it, plus 20 Gigs of music with room to spare.

[Popsikle]

Yes, this will be my xmas present to myself.